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Tb line breeding
TB Line-breeding Comments from Roy Brewer of Hammersmith Hill: So how do we upgrade our mare(s)? Well I have spent the last ten years or so researching the idea and I will share with you some of my thoughts.
I have looked at most, if not all, of the great racehorses of the 19th and 20th century. I have studied the produce of the greatest breeders of all time, looking for patterns that would fit today's racehorse, and I have come to some interesting conclusions. First, unless you have a horribly inbred mare, out crossing (no common ancestor in the first five generations) is not the way to go. Also, inbreeding and/or line breeding to just the male line of a pedigree or breeding a sire line to a broodmare sire line is not very productive. I should note that when a 'nick' occurs between a sire and a broodmare sire it is usually because the stallion's tai female line has a number of identical ancestors as the mares tail mail line. So let the experts tell you what they want, but according to my research the best breeders have constantly line bred and occasionally inbred their mares to stallions whose pedigrees were filled with a number of identical ancestors as their mares. Let me qualify this by saying that they crossed their mares with stallions that had an abundance of top quality racehorses in their pedigree. Also, their results got better when they crossed the gender line of particular horses (sons and daughters, or full brothers and sisters 3, 4, 5 and 6 generations back in the pedigree). Frederico Tesio, the perennial leading breeder of Europe for fifty years did this all the time and he bred three undefeated champions including Nearco and Ribot and Donatello II. The list of champions that are bred this way is endless and our list of local champions fit the same mold. So what's working right now? Well there are some distinct commonalities that I have been witnessing over the last 2 to 3 years, whether they are global or here in our backyard. 1) First and foremost, inbreeding and/or line breeding to Northern Dancer is, without a doubt the ticket! From my observations, this is the most productive pattern in stakes horses in the last three years. I have seen multiple crosses (2, 3 and 4 times) of Northern Dancer in at least 25% of the graded stakes horses that I have researched over the last three years. The richest filly of all time (Spain) is a perfect example. Also, seven of the 21 top three finishers in the 2002 Breeder's Cup had this trait and the top four finishers of this year's Irish Derby all carried this trait (the top three finishers all by Sadler's Wells and the fourth place finisher a grandson of Sadler's Wells). 2) Two names that are being line bred on a constant basis are Nasrullah and Native Dancer. I have seen Nasrullah as many times as eleven in the first six generations of a pedigree and Native Dancer as many times as five in the stakes horses I have researched. Basket Weave, Slewdledo and Tough Knight all have been very productive with mares that have multiple sons and/or daughters of Nasrullah in their pedigree. 3) The cross of Seattle Slew and Mr. Prospector or Mr. Prospector and Seattle Slew. Top or bottom, it doesn't seem to matter, there have been numerous successes using this cross. 4) A couple of other productive crosses to consider are: Northern Dancer / Native Dancer, or Mr. Prospector / Fleet Nasrullah. I know that there are other considerations when choosing a stallion for your mare, such as conformation, size, temperament, etc., But given those considerations, if you concentrate on breeding your mare to proven stallions or to new stallions that meet the above criteria and that when crossed show line breeding and/or inbreeding that links together in the first five or six generations some of the greater racehorses through both sexes, I believe your chance for success will improve greatly.
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Roy Brewer
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Re: Tb line breeding
Great post. I use Tesio's methods with great success.
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Originally Posted by
apeman
Bump up for 2020...
Where is officially retired. I have been wanting to breed some horses and a family of dogs. Money never equals my ideas. I wonder if they talk traits of these horses or just wins. Some have high top speeds. Some endurance. Some have minds that can’t be beat. In dogs, cattle and horses Heterosis has been the gospel. Finding the balance is the key to success.
