Wrecking Crews's Gringo and Hatfield's/Steve's Gunner

Was looking at these dog's pictures and pedigrees the other day. IMHO this is another catalysts family of dogs. That should be considered for breeding, to any of the last Carver bred dogs that have not been diluted. Sure there is a little of it still around here and there. It is not to late to revive the old Carver dogs. Since Ed Crenshaw played a big part in the Carver dogs. These dogs could be part of the plan to revive a lot of it. Hopefully these dog men will get to breed their males back to their dam to get some sound females and keep this line alive.

A good friend of mine (Mc'leod) I helped years back in the dogs. Has a line of dogs that carry a good bit of the old Cotton's Bullet breeding. He has similar looking dogs with big bones and big Tudor heads. His mostly are buckskin with minor white markings/black mask and Black dogs with white in chest. Cheers

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=47663 http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=41313

CYJ,

I've Seen many combinations of of the old White Bandit blood through CH Bullshit and Gonner. The dogs are very consistent even when crossed. High percentages and very well structured dogs.

S_B

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Originally Posted by CYJ

Was looking at these dog's pictures and pedigrees the other day. IMHO this is another catalysts family of dogs. That should be considered for breeding, to any of the last Carver bred dogs that have not been diluted. Sure there is a little of it still around here and there. It is not to late to revive the old Carver dogs. Since Ed Crenshaw played a big part in the Carver dogs. These dogs could be part of the plan to revive a lot of it. Hopefully these dog men will get to breed their males back to their dam to get some sound females and keep this line alive.

A good friend of mine (Mc'leod) I helped years back in the dogs. Has a line of dogs that carry a good bit of the old Cotton's Bullet breeding. He has similar looking dogs with big bones and big Tudor heads. His mostly are buckskin with minor white markings/black mask and Black dogs with white in chest. Cheers

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CYJ, would you share a few peds of those old Cotton's Bullet breeding you speak of?

Good looking animals and I heard nothing but good things about this line. Is Gringo or his bellymate brother up for stud?

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Originally Posted by MEAUXTIVATION

Good looking animals and I heard nothing but good things about this line. Is Gringo or his bellymate brother up for stud?

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he certainly is:
http://www.machobuck.com/Gringo.htm

and just dropped a litter of pups:
http://www.gamekeeperkennels.com/Puppies.html

Gringo is in Texas and has two brothers in Long Island. One with Red Tide Kennels (Grizz) an one with a fellow named Jason . Grizz is seal colored. The other is Black and White patched. and YES, CYJ is correct. You cross this tight E.Crenshaw blood with the heavy Carver, Redboy, or Bolio-Tombstone blood and you get absolute MONSTERS.

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Originally Posted by evolutionkennels

he certainly is:
http://www.machobuck.com/Gringo.htm

and just dropped a litter of pups:
http://www.gamekeeperkennels.com/Puppies.html

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Real nice! Should be there all night.

Ditto splash747. One is Larson's Satin dog id=34055. This bitch along with some of the Red Becker's dogs were way back in the Mc'leod's dogs. Mc'leod's Precious was a solid black bitch with a white spot in it's chest. His dogs has a good bit of the Cotton's Bullet way back.

But not line bred and concentrated like these dogs mentioned above. Still his dogs are very stout and carry those big Tudor heads. Cotton's Bullet blood/Crenshaw blood is pretty well no longer.

Mc'leod's Luther dog id=59135, is a medium size black dog with white spot in chest. That carries some of the Loposay's Bullet II blood line as well. Still nothing like what the previous dogs mentioned above.

Back when I was first in the dog game. The first owner of Bass' Tramp Red Boy had some of the Loposay's Bullet II dogs. Name was Wilbur Martin and Wilbur bred Red Boy to his Bullet bitches before Bass ever got Red Boy.

My local deceased dog buddy Andy Howle. Had one of the last inbred Cotton's Bullet dogs. Was formerly owned by the late Mr. John Shivar and was named Shivar's Sambo. Was a great looking solid black dog even at eleven years old. Had a white snowball patch in chest. Sadly was to old and died the next year. Got no pups off Sambo.

I saw some of the last direct daughters or grand daughters off Cotton's Bullet dog on Mr. Howard Teal's dog yard. Thanks to the new semen freezing techniques of today. Some of that old foundational blood has been saved. Hope the Sadie bitch of Evolution kennels is still in good health and gets bred back to the best of those Stud dogs.

Years back I had planned to see about breeding my Young's Tina to I believe Moore's Bandit or one of those dogs. Was to far to travel, believe the dog was out in California. Back then long distance travel was no easy task and money back then was real money. Cheers

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