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Just wondering if you think there's any time table on the process. I mean its not like they will forget, I realize they may get rusty. For instance, say you can't find specific individuals that may fit the bill. I mean sometimes its hard to get exactly what u need all the time, or maybe your location is shifty at times. Do u guys feel me? At this day and age. Not trying to sound dumb just wondering...
Working hunting dogs.
All of mine started school @ 1yr 's old minimum for just a few minutes to see where they were @ .
That is a standard.
When you are breeding a family instead of just letting 2 dogs f&%k this is what you do when you keep the whole litter.
You cannot pick the best from the litter without going thru the whole litter.
1 breeder ,1 standard.
If you don't feel confident enough to make your own decissions don't breed.
Culling starts on a working yard with a working family @ birth.
Defects & so on.
If pups are healthy next comes temeperment . If good then by a young age , My family starts schooling as they have for over a dozen generations.
Once you have popped collars & twisted sticks in the woods with @ least 4 generations you should have established a standard & know how old they start up.
Most of these so called fast lane dogs are just dogs! period. And allot of the new guys hold on to bad dogs longer than we did before the days of the interenet!
At 12 months Go thru each & ever dog in the litter just for a few minutes.
Some may go out a month or two younger some while others month or two older. Yet 12 months is base. Most of mine will have it on there minds around this age & 2-5 mins won't hurt anyone.
If show's good then around 60-90 dyas & so on until around 18-20 months . Some @ 18 months were better than allot of big names @ 3yrs old.
18 months is the standard. 2 yrs max for those who are borderline.
Beyond that they can't eat my food!!!!!!
Most of what I feed were 2 hogged for many generations to check the gameness.
They also got some time pushing up hill.
Once tired from 1st put a fresh one on for a few minutes to rough him up & check his heart.
A few that didn't went out 3-4 weeks in a row for short times.
See them @ there worst against something @ there best for a few minutes.
I hear allot about these so called fast lane dogs. I had never seen anything new when dealt with in person. Same old stuff.
90% never met the standards. More talk than walk sometimes & ampt up BS the rest.
Don't get caught up in names & stories. Just what your eyes see!
They are all the same. Names on them are the difference.
Fast lane has been same lane to me for over ever.
Each breeder has there own standards. There own styles they breed for & the limits they are willing to go thru to achieve their standards.
YOU CANNOT BASE YOUR DOGS ON OTHERS STANDARDS!
You will always be buying new garbage talking about look how he's bred or I got him from this guy or that guy.
You need only a handfull of things to get the best out of what you feed when it comes to performance.
Pop collars,twist sticks & repeat. If you like a ceratin style than feed & breed those that do it & pass it on.
No one can give you the right direction needed when they have never actually seen them in person perform.
If someone didn't handle it or even seen it then don't pay attention to it. Seen to many cull other folks wet dreams when it comes to bulldogs & work.
You set the standard on what you feed.
1.What age you check & expect to see an intrest.
2.What style you expect from your dogs. Hard bite is not a style!
3.How many times you need to see him perform until you stamp him as good.
4.How many times you breed him & how many turn out to meet your standards.
No matter how good a dog is they all die one day, so if he doesn't reproduce like dogs then it could just be a show piece more than a contribution to your family.
You don't have to travel the world when the world comes home to you!
I have the same folks comming back over & over already knowing the family standards & the fact that if they don't turn out by the minimum age they are more than welcome for a replacement.
You can't promise that they will be Gr Ch's but you can promise it will show intrest & a love for the hunt by a certain age!
That's when you have hunted with so many generations, the belly mates,& 1/2 siblings for each generation.
Dogs cannot read & are color blind. If you want good dogs then you need to be too!
They only way to learn about the working dogs you feed is a scratch line, a breaking stick & to go threw everything you feed more than once.
Hog Hunting that is!
Legal Hog Hunting!
No timetable for me, before when I was younger by time you were 13-14 months you was getting a few mins but now I'm fully comfortable with being patient, I try not to touch one before 18-20 months nowadays. Time don't make them game but it saves you from saying damn I rushed them too soon..
Same here. No dog has ever been hurt by waiting.
Two of the better dogs I have ever seen had zero interest at 18-20 months. DTA's CH Charlie (4XW) and Purepower's CH Skull (4XW). If they were decided upon at 18-20 months both would have been deemed cold, border line curs as they did not see the point.
I've always been a 'to each his own' person. This subject no different. I'm a waiter now, maybe more so than ever.
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I agree with last two posts. Matter of fact, regardless of blood or behavior I believe one to be an absolute idiot to touch one at a year.
Had a world class coach tell me once, "brightest star burns out first"
I agree with that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel