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I was looking at some ped stats and was wondering if your dogs peds look like this http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=474037 is there a high chance of them producing their trait than a dog bred like this http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=333157 this may be a silly question for the advance but bare with me guys I'm a novice ...
Some like the tight bred dogs some like them crossed. Some lines inbreed a lot better than others. A dog from either ped could turn out good or bad. In that aspect its always a gamble. Just get a dog from a good trustworthy person.
Yea, I know it's going to be a gamble but I'm trying to figure out which type of breeding will give me a higher percentage of dogs that carry the traits I'm looking for.
the theory is if you have a higher percent of a certain dog you are more likely to have that dogs traits pop up in offspring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acesaun
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Originally Posted by gotap_d
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First of all, why are you posting PedsOnline links here?
Secondly, a pedigree doesn't look like a dog to me.
You have to look at the dogs too, not just the pedigrees.
For example, Pretty Boy was 75% Poncho (top and bottom) but looked nothing like Poncho.
Whereas Gr Ch Zukill was only 50% Poncho yet he was a carbon-copy clone of him.
More importantly, Pretty Boy was just a game plug, whereas Zukill was a badass dog to the bone and DOA'd 6 dogs from between :19 and :48.
So, going by pedigrees alone, you would be making a terrible mistake going with Pretty Boy ... when, if you judged by performance and pedigree, you'd be going with Zukill :idea:
Sure, both Pretty Boy and Zukill were "game" ... but Zukill was a thousand-times better animal.
Jack
PS: You have a cool avatar :)
Jack what was poncho's style compared to zukill and pretty boy?Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Poncho at his best was a calm, methodical wall of a dog. He would glop onto a dog's ear and stop them in their tracks, and position himself in such a way as not to get bit, usually shoulder-to-shoulder. The more energy his opponent would expend, the more relaxed and in-control Poncho would be, forcing the opponent to carry his weight, and using their effort against them. Poncho was a totally relaxed and totally confident animal. He would never get flustered. If the opponent tried to wrestle him down, he would just roll down with him, and get up on the other side of the dog ... still on the same ear hold ... and now that dog's head would be twisted upside-down and it would be struggling to breathe. Poncho would keep this up, and keep this up, until the opponent would begin to tire ... and once the opponent had the play taken out of it ... and either turned or started to falter and get tired ... then Poncho would switch to offense, down the dog, and start trying to eat it in the brisket or in the throat. Poncho would get a kind of "body press" on top of the dog, pinning it, and would slowly and calmly just start chewing into the dog. He had fantastic natural stamina, wouldn't waste a drop of energy, and had a long, thick, powerful neck that was almost impossible for his opponent to get passed. The only reason he lost is because he was nearly 4 lb light, 100% my mistake, and that was the only time he was ever scratched-into ... no other dog ever wanted to go back into him on a "break" ... because Poncho rarely ever released his holds ... and by the time you go a handle on him, the other dog was a dead-tired, thoroughly-dominated & beaten animal ...Quote:
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Zukill was a wierd, unorthodox powerhouse bulldog. He would rush forward, head low, feint one way, and try to get up under a dog and flip it on its back. He would go for kill spots (throat and guts), and it was very hard to predict what the heck he was going to do ... but he knew what he was doing. Zukill was also freakishly-strong and extremely durable, and I don't ever think he took a backward step. Zukill was, in essence, a freak of nature. Kingfish Kid seen Gr Ch Art and Gr Ch Tornado go personally. He's seen Jeep go personally (whom he said wasn't in the same class as the other two). But he said Zukill was every bit the dog these 2 all-time great dogs were. Keep in mind Zukill had NO CUTTERS and yet he killed 6 dogs in a row ... with most of his wins being DOAs in :19 - :39 ... and no dog lived passed :48 with him. That is how powerful he was. How would The Queen, Tornado, or Art do without a single cutter in their heads? Hard to say, but Zukill killed 6 in a row like that. Kingfish Kid was very private, but he said if Zukill would have been in the limelight in a more "public" dogman's hands, he would be known as an all-time great animal.
Pretty Boy was absolutely ordinary in ever way ... except his gameness, which was extra-ordinary. Pretty Boy wasn't particularly strong, smart, or anything else ... and he couldn't bust a grape with his mouth ... but that little dog absolutely LOVED to fight, and he didn't know the meaning of the word pain. His first match was in the hands of a greenhorn, who took Pretty Boy at 16 months with NO EXPERIENCE (the dog had never been rolled or bumped ONCE) ... and yet this greenhorn threw the young Pretty Boy in their with Mike P. ... a very experienced friend of Rock Bottom ... and after a rough hour, Pretty Boy eventually won that fight the only way he could, and that was on PURE GAMENESS ... running a staggering scratch to win (to a standing ovation) at 2:42. LOL, the dog went nearly 3 hours on his first time down :lol: Pretty Boy then lost game to a Champion and was simply outclassed in every which way, but heart.
Jack