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Officially Retired
01-31-2015, 10:00 AM
The Pit Bull Bible's Official
2014 Dog of the Year
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_011369_04.jpg
Face 2 Face & El Solo's Gr Ch El Titere (7xW) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11369&thumbnail=2)

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/BOY-DOY/2014 DOY.jpg

In a landslide voting victory, Face 2 Face & El Solo's Gr Ch El Titere (7xW) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11369&thumbnail=2) earned the very first Pit Bull Bible Official DOY Award ever given. Our decision to create our own DOY title was prompted by the fact that a popular international magazine did not give this award to Titere, which so outraged us (and the rest of the APBT community :idea:), that once again we had to step up with our usual "If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself" attitude, and so we did ... and thus The Pit Bull Bible Official DOY Award title is born, and Gr Ch El Titere (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11369&thumbnail=2) is its first recipient.

:appl: :appl: :appl:

This fine animal has been underrated for most of his career, taking names and earning numbers as he went along, and building an incredible record every step of the way. In the year of 2014, Titere achieved THREE incredible accomplishments, each of which (by itself) placed him in line for DOY Candidacy, and when added-up together simply made him *the* choice, period, and by a country mile. These three incredible accomplishments are: (1) Becoming a 7xW, (2) Beating a Grand Champion while being a Grand Champion, and (3) Beating a DOY while being a DOY :shocked:

Any one of these accomplishments made Titere a favorite, but when you put them all together it isn't even a contest. The title of Grand Champion (5xW) is a tough title to earn, but realistically the sport is filled with them. Happens all the time. The bridge to become a 6xW Grand Champion, and then a 7xW Grand Champion, is an exponentially more difficult bridge to cross ... separating Titere from all all the other Candidates ... doubly-so while facing fellow-Champions/Grand Champions, and the previous-year's DOY, while doing this :idea:

For every twenty 5x winners, there is only one 7xW ... and when you get into 7xW territory, you are now walking on Holy Ground :idea:
And when you're going this while beating fellow Chs/6xWs/DOYs to get there, you are truly in Uncharted Territory :idea:

Titere did all this and didn't even struggle: he made it look easy. Titere's accomplishments this year are simply unprecedented, literally unequaled in gamedog history, and not only earn El Titere our first DOY Title, but make him a shoe-in for Greatest Dog of the Decade, and possibly even Greatest Dog of All Time. Seriously, you will not be able to find a more accomplished résumé in the history of our sport. Our first choice for DOY simply could have been no other ...





That said, the difficult part of our first DOY selection wasn't in choosing the winner, it was in choosing who are the runners-up? There will only be 3, and there were more than 3 other great Candidates for the 2014 DOY Title, candidates who were voted on by the community and analyzed by myself. These dogs deserve Honorable Mention and Runner-Up status too. Without disrespecting the other dogs, because they're all great in their own way, we have chosen the following 3 Runners-Up:


2014 First Runner Up
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_041074_01.jpg
2The Neck Kennels' Ch April II (3xW) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=41074)

I am going against the voting a bit here, because (1) most people think "vote male" for DOY and (2) most people are thinking "Grand Champion" or "beat a Grand Champion" for their list of accomplishments, but in our opinion Ch April had arguably the most impressive year of 2014, which was beating TWO Champions and going 3:15 for the last one. Remember, the DOY title has to do with the most impressive year for the subject calendar year, and that is one helluva year folks: stopping Blood Bond's 4xW from making Grand Champion and beating another Champion and winning a 3:15 war to do it :shocked:

Hats off to this great bitch :hatsoff:






2014 Second Runner Up
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_045654_01.jpg
Triangle Gang's Gr Ch Grip (5xW) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=45654)

This was a tough call between Gr Ch Grip (5xW) and Gr Ch Capoeira (5xW), both earning the title of Grand Champion for winning 5. Ultimately, I favored Gr Ch Grip because he defeated Searge's Ch Redman (8xW, 1xL) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=45660). While a great accomplishment, its significance was diminished slightly because Redman was 8 years old at the time of his defeat. Therefore, great as this accomplishment was, it did not quite equal Ch April defeating 2 prime Champions, nor Titere's defeating a prime 6xW/DOY in Homer Balboa ... that was 2 lb bigger and a fellow DOY. Nonetheless, Gr Ch Grip made history in becoming a 5xW and beating a Grand Champion to do it.

:appl:






2014 Third Runner Up
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_045766_01.jpg
Corner 2 Corner's Gr Ch Capoeira (5xW, 2x BIS) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=45766)

Gr Ch Capoeira (5xW, 2x BIS) is arguably *the* baddest dog of the lot, winning 5x (earning 2 BISs in the process), and never being taken over the :30 min mark (:10, :26, :27, :27, :24). Widely-considered the baddest bitch alive right now, Gr Ch Capoeira deserves Honorable Mention for DOY Candidacy ... but in our opinion no single accomplishment of hers is quite at the level of the others mentioned above ... though her devastating achievement is definitely worthy of considerable admiration and respect by bulldog fanciers worldwide. So hats off to her and her camp.

:hatsoff:





So there you have it, folks, The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database's first DOY Awards :cheers:

We have given our choices, and stated our reasons, with valuable input from you, our community of voters 8)

You are more than welcome to post your approval, disapproval, or to make general comments ... but THESE VOTES STAND as of today :-bd

Jack*

ragedog10
01-31-2015, 10:30 AM
I could not agree more Jack, Titere accomplished things that may never be seen again in my life time. Next stop R.O.M the story continues and we will keep everyone informed as we set out on the journey.

BULLDOG ANONYMOUS
01-31-2015, 12:25 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/nolovekennels/grch%20titere/GRCHTITERE6.jpg I truly like this dog. Good deal,

S_B
01-31-2015, 12:41 PM
:cheers: To these Bulldogs...and to their Camp (s) for their truly outstanding accomplishments! :hatsoff: :appl:

S_B

Officially Retired
01-31-2015, 08:26 PM
Would like to point out that 2 of these dogs are completely scatter-bred, while 2 are somewhat linebred.

According to the Wright's Inbreeding Coefficient (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/wic.php), "A 10%-20% WIC is a somewhat linebred dog. Coefficients of 20%-35% are getting into some solid linebreeding in the genetic background, and anything with over a 35% WIC. is an intensely inbred/linebred animal."


Face2Face's Gr Ch Titere (7xW, 3x DOY) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11369&thumbnail=2) = 5.9% at 13 generations;

2The Neck's Ch April (3xW) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=41074) = 17.3% at 13 generations;

Triangle Gang's Gr Ch Grip (5xW) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=45654) = 1.1% at 13 generations;

Corner 2 Corner's Gr Ch Capoeira (5xW, 2x BIS) (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=45766) = 16.1% at 13 generations.

Interesting statistics ...

Jack

loot
02-01-2015, 02:58 AM
Congrats. to all camps for their hard work..

Badboy Kennel
02-01-2015, 05:21 AM
Great job to all.

Pit Bull Committed
02-01-2015, 09:11 AM
Congrats to all for their outstanding accomplishments!

inkdogg
02-02-2015, 01:43 PM
Congrats to all the camps.

S_B
02-03-2015, 12:34 AM
Suggestion: How about adding the title to the "edit details" page of the pedigree to reflect "PPBDOY" & "PBBGDOY"? :D

S_B

Macker
02-03-2015, 01:16 AM
Well done to all involved.

GEAUX TIGERS
02-04-2015, 06:58 AM
Not to kick a hornets nest or put drama on this well written and credible thread, there are a few things that need to be adjusted. FMK and Big T are the owners of GR CH El Titre. Not to take any credit away from EL Solo and Face to Face, they did get him to 5 which is impressive on its own. Once Funky Medina (FMK) took over thats where Titre really flourished and cemented himself in history and solidified himself in the lore of legendary status like such greats as GR CH Buck, Sandman, Shady Lady and so on and so forth. FMK is a quiet guy but make no mistake he deserves his credit and give the man his do.

BULLDOG ANONYMOUS
02-04-2015, 11:33 AM
Geaux Tigers, thank you for that read. I was also just told about this...
Y.I.S
J.Hodges

Bromboy
02-04-2015, 03:47 PM
MAN! I'm m glad some one said it funk our man!

ragedog10
02-04-2015, 08:07 PM
Yes Funk did a hell of a job with last two, the first 5 most don't know about.

Officially Retired
02-04-2015, 08:54 PM
Hi;

Thanks for the update. I have some serious shit I am dealing with (multiple fatality cases, stabbings, court appearances, etc.) that I got slammed with, which will have me working crazy hours, on into the weekend.

Will try to get all this handled, on all articles, etc., ped issues, etc. by Sunday.

Thanks again,

Jack

Nitaino
02-06-2015, 10:16 AM
Just for the record,ive been tying to get ahold of Jack to straighten out the dicrepency on that cover, as far as i know and remember with the deal i made with fmk im still very much a part in titeres career past and present and future, as far as the name on the cover goes it should be fmk& solos,. F2f's name should not be on there at all for all he was was a person i paid every time to condition and handle for me because im always pro dog, as far as the first 5 not being known goes, theres a reason for that, those who needed to know knew,i didnt want it to go public for obvios reasons, but there seems to be a whole lot of people to know alot about the whole story on tits and his father, but dont know the real story,ive been called a few times to be asked about some questions about there careers but never followed thru about the whole story which ive been yearning to put out there so these doubts about them would be put to rest once and for all,until then the credit will not be dispersed correctly,i totaly hate the gossip and the one sidedness that exiist regarding titere and his sire,, please note that this was an account that was lent to me so i can post this, dot pm this account for these are my words not his,(L SoLo)

S_B
02-06-2015, 11:11 AM
I don't take into account anyone's gossip to try and diminish a 7xw, no one should.
Regardless of who or how GR CH TITERE 7XW got there, the fact is he did. He's an exceptional bulldog and deserves any and all positive recognition. As well as everyone involved with him whomever they may be.

There will always be those cynical people who can never accept the accomplishments of others.

He is a great animal any negative rumors have no place here.

S_B

1DEEP
02-07-2015, 08:22 PM
That is the thing that stuck out to me most....Outstanding animals, but the breeding to produce them seem random...eli,aligator,redboy Jmo....congrats to the camps....alot of hard work goes into every campaign...

Nitaino
02-08-2015, 06:04 AM
Thanks 1deep, when cullhard & i went to go breed blunts asian girl" shut up". I remember being asked if we were crazy backing her into boomer to produce panthr "sr"but ill tell ya, that was a high percentage litter as was titeres litter, and titere has a high percentage litter when bred to carmen electra.but like ive always said,"a dog is as good as its owner/promoter.(solo)

S_B
02-08-2015, 07:52 AM
Thanks 1deep, when cullhard & i went to go breed blunts asian girl" shut up". I remember being asked if we were crazy backing her into boomer to produce panthr "sr"but ill tell ya, that was a high percentage litter as was titeres litter, and titere has a high percentage litter when bred to carmen electra.but like ive always said,"a dog is as good as its owner/promoter.(solo)

He is random bred but for some reason I like it! ;)
:-bd

ragedog10
02-08-2015, 11:05 AM
He is random bred but for some reason I like it! ;)
:-bd

What is it by "random bred" do you mean?
To me it sounds like just breed him to her or them to this with out a goal in mind. But that cross ELI/REDBOY/alligator has been done for some time now just Titere is the first big name. Look closer at his ped and you will see just what was done with that breeding!

S_B
02-08-2015, 01:16 PM
No disrespect, and not taking anything away from the Grand Champ. I did not mean that in a negative way whatsoever. Basically it appears random to anyone from the outside looking in. It has been stated when these breedings took place there was a vision. Clearly that panned out and I'm sure far better than expected.

I know of a similar type breeding WILL-RICH'S LITTLE FUCKER 5XW (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=46291) this was a great dog I had the pleasure of seeing a few times. I never bred to him because of how he was bred. I didn't have the vision those guys did and I'm told he produced pretty well.

Like Jack has stated if you use the tools from within your pedigree you should be able to maintain success. I wish the folks involved with this great dog success. It's all to often those stand out's get forgotten or don't produce because of breeding decisions. :cheers: To those visions past Titere and beyond.

Best of luck,
S_B

ragedog10
02-08-2015, 06:24 PM
I never take anything in any type of way. I just would like to here your thoughts is why I asked.
To me if i didnt know why the breeding was done it would look like they took two chinaman/redboy dogs one with an out of alligator and bred them to each other.

That Will-Rich's lil fucker dog i heard good things about. By any chance did u get to see Will-Rich's Brutus 2xw-1xl?

Officially Retired
02-10-2015, 06:01 AM
Just for the record,ive been tying to get ahold of Jack to straighten out the dicrepency on that cover, as far as i know and remember with the deal i made with fmk im still very much a part in titeres career past and present and future, as far as the name on the cover goes it should be fmk& solos,. F2f's name should not be on there at all for all he was was a person i paid every time to condition and handle for me because im always pro dog, as far as the first 5 not being known goes, theres a reason for that, those who needed to know knew,i didnt want it to go public for obvios reasons, but there seems to be a whole lot of people to know alot about the whole story on tits and his father, but dont know the real story,ive been called a few times to be asked about some questions about there careers but never followed thru about the whole story which ive been yearning to put out there so these doubts about them would be put to rest once and for all,until then the credit will not be dispersed correctly,i totaly hate the gossip and the one sidedness that exiist regarding titere and his sire,, please note that this was an account that was lent to me so i can post this, dot pm this account for these are my words not his,(L SoLo)

Okay, I have been "PM'd" a few times on the name change, and people have asked here too, but Can anyone get anything straight and be consistent with anything?

FMK or Funky Medina or Funky Medina Kennels?

El Solo or L SoLo?

I go by Vise-Grip Kennels.
My dogs are always Vise-Grip's XX (not V-Grip's, or VGK's, or any variation of my kennel name), but Vise-Grip's XX.
I stick with one thing and one thing only.

That said, I have been told about 10 different ways to put the human preface to El Titere's name.

Can anyone tell me (once and for all) if it's FMK's and Big T ... or Funky Medina and Big T ... or FMK and El Solo ... or FMK and L SoLo ... or however they want it? :confused: :rolleyes:

I will change the name ONCE ... but I need someone to actually be able to say, with authority, how they want the name to read.

Please do not abbreviate, or spell like a retard, but just state the official way this dog is to be known ... and only say so if you know the parties and asked them directly.

Thanks,

Jack

EGK
02-10-2015, 11:25 AM
I never take anything in any type of way. I just would like to here your thoughts is why I asked.
To me if i didnt know why the breeding was done it would look like they took two chinaman/redboy dogs one with an out of alligator and bred them to each other.

That Will-Rich's lil fucker dog i heard good things about. By any chance did u get to see Will-Rich's Brutus 2xw-1xl?


Brutus was a rough straight forward dog. His first wasn't into much of an experienced dog or quality. In his 2nd he started out rough and fast. He also faded fast getting hot. In the ended his handler brought him threw it. I questioned his gameness though. How did his 3rd end?

ragedog10
02-10-2015, 08:17 PM
The wrong way from the start I think he was 2lbs under and still went close to 2hr's only to be counted out still wanting to come.
Blunt cutters and all this line i have seen have super high drive and are very ruff. Seen a nephew of Brutus that was super ruff on the head but lacked in the heart! Still like the family line

SHOWBOX
02-11-2015, 10:24 AM
Okay, I have been "PM'd" a few times on the name change, and people have asked here too, but Can anyone get anything straight and be consistent with anything?

FMK or Funky Medina or Funky Medina Kennels?

El Solo or L SoLo?

I go by Vise-Grip Kennels.
My dogs are always Vise-Grip's XX (not V-Grip's, or VGK's, or any variation of my kennel name), but Vise-Grip's XX.
I stick with one thing and one thing only.

That said, I have been told about 10 different ways to put the human preface to El Titere's name.

Can anyone tell me (once and for all) if it's FMK's and Big T ... or Funky Medina and Big T ... or FMK and El Solo ... or FMK and L SoLo ... or however they want it? :confused: :rolleyes:

I will change the name ONCE ... but I need someone to actually be able to say, with authority, how they want the name to read.

Please do not abbreviate, or spell like a retard, but just state the official way this dog is to be known ... and only say so if you know the parties and asked them directly.

Thanks,

Jack

He'd (Solo) like it to state exactly what's on the SDJ Hall of Fame Certificate dated Jan/15;

"FMK & Solo's Grand Champion Titere"

SHOWBOX

EGK
02-11-2015, 02:57 PM
The wrong way from the start I think he was 2lbs under and still went close to 2hr's only to be counted out still wanting to come.
Blunt cutters and all this line i have seen have super high drive and are very ruff. Seen a naphew of Brutus that was super ruff on the head but lacked in the heart! Still like the family line

Can't complain about that at all. Answered my question then for sure. Hope he produces well.

ragedog10
02-11-2015, 05:58 PM
Can't complain about that at all. Answered my question then for sure. Hope he produces well.
Don't think he will ever get that chance as they let him pass! My buddy did do a Bro/sis breeding with him before that pups act very well so far!
That nephew off his litter mate sister bred to monster was a hard mouth head doctor gets deep into that head but lost his interest after being in control the whole time and packed it in on top!
Heard Brutus was a stone cold killer on those first two.

EGK
02-12-2015, 08:10 AM
Nothing at all against brutus or his camp. Cool and seasoned dudes. Not at all on his 2nd was he killing though. The other was spooky as hell and all kind of agreements were broke which made the other at a big disadvantage. Brutus handler saw the other was spooky and stood like a linebacker right over the top of them. Brutus came out fast but the other was smart. By 20 min Brutus blew hot. A handle was made because the other was turning as he had before. Some quick handles and each made scratch but Brutus was starting to lay around. The other was starting to take control. With the scratch on the other Brutus handler made a good handle and they switched corners. The others handler was told to swap corners. The crowd was only to one side of the room. The spooky hound now had to scratch to the dog and handler who hand been right over top of him and crowd. He got counted out looking at the crowd. When they passed exiting he tried for Brutus again. When asked to courtesy by his own crowd Brutus owner refused. Brutus was head down facing a neutral corner gassed and exhausted. The other was rolled the next day and only had one hole in his shoulder. His owner felt so bad he begged for another shot at Brutus double the money with the same dog. His dog had been shown previously private only 5 to a side. The show was 3hrs from the original agreed location which he found out an hour before the agreed start. His dog got car sick and was off as hell. Trying to make Ch he made a bad call still going and was absolutely out handled and managed. Brutus was not killing in that one and the end result is why I questioned his gameness. Him looking exhausted and uninterested and his handler refused to courtesy. Glad to know it was only my questioning and he showed game though. The other nearly broke a leg on one in his next morning roll. A dog that fresh wasnt being killed less than 8hrs before. His first, I don't know the guys but they were said to be backyard ppl.

S_B
02-12-2015, 09:09 AM
This right here folks is a perfect example that gameness is not absolute like some would like to believe. It's glaringly obvious by what EGK just stated the Brutus dog was going to stand to the better dog on that day and he questioned the dogs gameness.

And it is likewise glaringly obvious that Brutus proved to be a very game dog later according to Ragedog10 who has no questions about how game Brutus was.

S_B

EGK
02-12-2015, 11:18 AM
That's one thing for sure S_B and I factor that for the most part Brutus just ran hot as hell. He was muscled like hell and dropped weight fast. Even if he would've quit that day I would've looked more at that heat wall he hit hard and fast. I also can't say the other was better. He broke legs in his first but had to come from behind with the other gasing out miles ahead. In his second his handler had help from the old timer that owned the one he beat cause he liked the muscle and how fast the other came out. The old timer and some shot he gives before made both of those look like shit. I believe if what I was told was right he helped with Brutus and gave the same shot. There was the same result 3 times from that shit. The Spooky dog worked threw it but wasn't the same after. Luckily his comp was half started and just stood from start to finish on the scratch line. If Brutus got the same shot he had the same result.