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BlackHowling
09-05-2014, 12:35 PM
Question do dogmen and blood lines differ by region, if we took the Us and divide it into four quandrants what would go where. Let me know your thoughts.

When i was growing up in the midwest farm communities Dogs like we had a lot of Boyles\Patrik dogs and ofrn. My brother introdued the first jeep dog by way of Ikes Black Dick. Got to Texas and ran into a lot of Redboy\Jocko dogs.


Let me know what you think

EWO
09-05-2014, 02:17 PM
I think you can trace their origins to a certain region (the major lines/headliners) but once they become popular they are pretty much everywhere. Maybe slightly heavier in their home turf but overall I doubt anyone family will dominate another in a certain region.

One of the jokes around the NC way is, "you can step out your door, throw a rock and pretty much hit a Garner bred dog". With a second glance those type dogs are all over the country.

I think popularity and success twist and re-shape any original boundaries. EWO

bulldoghistorian
09-05-2014, 09:26 PM
In europe yes

Macker
09-05-2014, 11:26 PM
Like everything dogs and different lines have been made very accessible with the help of the internet, maybe before the internet came along certain lines where more common to certain regions because that's what guys could get there hands on.

loot
09-06-2014, 02:12 AM
Like everything dogs and different lines have been made very accessible with the help of the internet, maybe before the internet came along certain lines where more common to certain regions because that's what guys could get there hands on.
I agree

Officially Retired
09-09-2014, 08:25 AM
Question do dogmen and blood lines differ by region, if we took the Us and divide it into four quandrants what would go where. Let me know your thoughts.
When i was growing up in the midwest farm communities Dogs like we had a lot of Boyles\Patrik dogs and ofrn. My brother introdued the first jeep dog by way of Ikes Black Dick. Got to Texas and ran into a lot of Redboy\Jocko dogs.
Let me know what you think

Of course. But you've just divided the US into more than 4 quadrants by using the phrase mid-west :)

If there is northwest, southwest, northeast, and southeast ... that's 4 right there :)

So I believe the country is much more complex than a mere 4 quadrants ...

That said, of course there are going to be different lines by region. Since Patrick was a major breeder in the southwest, there were a lot of Patrick dogs out here. I would say Carver-type dogs are more prevalent in Texas, Tant and Boyles dogs in the south, etc.

The thing is, though, with this amazing invention we have called "the airplane," dogs can pretty much be sent all over the world, so some really major breeders, who've prolifically sent dogs all over the world for the last 2-3 decades, are going to have a much more global influence ... than some guy who doesn't do hardly any breeding and who keeps his dogs local.

Jack

bulldoghistorian
09-09-2014, 10:06 AM
Like everything dogs and different lines have been made very accessible with the help of the internet, maybe before the internet came along certain lines where more common to certain regions because that's what guys could get there hands on.

Dunno about that , for example a lot from my country spend months in the USA , travelling back and forth visiting yards and shows
some lived in the USA for long period of times trying to learn everything their was to know about the dogs ( or should I say hounds)

SGC
09-09-2014, 10:14 AM
some lived in the USA for long period of times trying to learn everything their was to know about the dogs ( or should I say hounds)

LOL... good one!

Macker
09-09-2014, 10:27 AM
Dunno about that , for example a lot from my country spend months in the USA , travelling back and forth visiting yards and shows
some lived in the USA for long period of times trying to learn everything their was to know about the dogs ( or should I say hounds)


Yes for sure, John Doyle traveled the states spending time with lots of the oldtime dogmen doing exactly what you say, but guys like him and the men from your country where few and far between and it took a lot of effort and money to do. Now days it takes little more than a couple of emails to get what you want from America or wherever. I think the world has become a much smaller place since the arrival of the Internet.

Perfect example is this Forum, here we are every day looking at top class mating's from all around the world and chatting with dog men from all around the world with little or no stress involved. With as little as a private message the ball can be rolling in getting a pup from one of these breedings.

bamaman
09-09-2014, 11:41 AM
Not much to say here .If there was one particular family that was best then everyone would have the same dogs

bulldoghistorian
09-11-2014, 12:48 AM
Yes for sure, John Doyle traveled the states spending time with lots of the oldtime dogmen doing exactly what you say, but guys like him and the men from your country where few and far between and it took a lot of effort and money to do. Now days it takes little more than a couple of emails to get what you want from America or wherever. I think the world has become a much smaller place since the arrival of the Internet.

Perfect example is this Forum, here we are every day looking at top class mating's from all around the world and chatting with dog men from all around the world with little or no stress involved. With as little as a private message the ball can be rolling in getting a pup from one of these breedings.

quite a few here did , spend a lot of time with people like b.hall , rebel , james crenshaw

Mudville
09-11-2014, 07:58 AM
I agree with the idea that modern technology has made it easier to acquire what's on the other side of the country/ world.

But IMO certain families of dogs do still differ by region. There are still some men who don't sell to the public. Some who only place dogs within a range they can check up on, regardless of purchase or gift.

Too many variables when dealing with anything in these dogs. But regional bloods will always dominate a certain sector. Whether dogs from other areas are drove or flown in, the ones being bred and worked there should be more prevalent. Unless they aint worth shit. LOL