Undefeated litter from western balkan 13W 1D

[KAIRO]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=26063

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=26051

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11515

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=26363

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=41726

[Officially Retired]

Now that's a litter!

:-bd

[drz]

Very impressive!!

[KAIRO]

radonjic's Jumbo is the best producer in europe for the last 25 years, I don't know correct information but I think about 15 points on the ROM list, and still today people from Montenegro (former Yugoslavia country,place where jumbo was living) make the best results whit same blood, Jumbo gave many great bulldogs in the cross with so much deferent lines like carver,hammond,zwettler,snooty and so on...

[PORTORICO]

I would not give all the credit to jumbo. Jumbo and Rambo (and daisy) where imported from states. Many breedings we see listed as sired by jumbo in reality came from double breeding with jumbo and rambo on the same bitch. So I would split merits, Jumbo and Rambo super producers

[KAIRO]

You mean radonjic's gipsy?? He is third brother that gave allso great bulldogs. Maybe you don't know but jumbo and gipsy pumped lola at the same day, that litter from the top came out of that breeding, but all offsprings had jumbo color and fight stile.

[CYJ]

Hello Kairo. If you have wondered about the dog man with just the name Chris. That was Chris Cooke and many years ago was a up coming young dog man in the game. Chris came down often and visited with V. Jackson. V. Jackson helped him with his work and feed keep. One known dog show back then was R. Carter's Blackie into V. Jackson and Chris' Thora. Was so many game scratches back and forth. I quit counting around the twenty or so mark. The dog pull lasted 3:09 min. with Carter's Blackie picked up dead game. Have not been able to get the breeding on the Thora dog. Will try to remember to ask, next time I chat with V.J.

Chris was one really likable young man and had dogs along with Earl Miller. Chris overtime was hard to win over and liked the Jocko/Red Boy crosses. Mr. Earl Miller was one of the first breeders to make the Chavis Jocko and Garret Red Boy crosses. All with good success.

Wish I had kept the p.m. A younger dog man of today, having just moved back in the State from Texas. Lives down the road from either Chris or Mr. Miller. Says he stops by time to time and talk dogs. Mr. Miller and Chris no longer are active dog men with no dogs. Cheers

[KAIRO]

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[bulldoghistorian]

I would not give all the credit to jumbo. Jumbo and Rambo (and daisy) where imported from states. Many breedings we see listed as sired by jumbo in reality came from double breeding with jumbo and rambo on the same bitch. So I would split merits, Jumbo and Rambo super producers

Heard the same story on the Yacuza dog , who from what I understand had higher ROM points than Jumbo
but also there they used his son I believe

[KAIRO]

I heard same but who knows?!!!

[PORTORICO]

Kairo yes I was saying that, double breeding...

[30orless]

Hello Kairo. If you have wondered about the dog man with just the name Chris. That was Chris Cooke and many years ago was a up coming young dog man in the game. Chris came down often and visited with V. Jackson. V. Jackson helped him with his work and feed keep. One known dog show back then was R. Carter's Blackie into V. Jackson and Chris' Thora. Was so many game scratches back and forth. I quit counting around the twenty or so mark. The dog pull lasted 3:09 min. with Carter's Blackie picked up dead game. Have not been able to get the breeding on the Thora dog. Will try to remember to ask, next time I chat with V.J.

Chris was one really likable young man and had dogs along with Earl Miller. Chris overtime was hard to win over and liked the Jocko/Red Boy crosses. Mr. Earl Miller was one of the first breeders to make the Chavis Jocko and Garret Red Boy crosses. All with good success.

Wish I had kept the p.m. A younger dog man of today, having just moved back in the State from Texas. Lives down the road from either Chris or Mr. Miller. Says he stops by time to time and talk dogs. Mr. Miller and Chris no longer are active dog men with no dogs. Cheers

Thor was litter mate brother to dangerous dan, dan sired Carolina kennels termite, Thor was bred a few times ,was not a good producer, he died after his last match ,on the way home in the floor of Chris's truck. I know Chris personally, he was a good dogman and still is a dude dude

[KAIRO]

Yes PORTORICO that's how it happen that day but like I said every offspring from that litter had jumbo's collors and fighting stile except Bjeljina boy's Sivi, he looked as same as his mother Lola

[PORTORICO]

Kairo I understand what you say but if you don't dna the dogs you will never know who is the sire...I see black bolio dogs, fawn alligator ones, white redboy and so on...