Congratulations to Gr.Ch Titere 8xw DOY 2013/2014

[ragedog10]

Congratulations to the camp for getting it done! Homer who? Out raced Balboa in 1:15. The best 44 of present time. Alot of doubters and he mad it look easy again.http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11369

[SteelyDan]

Homer who? Lol

That's silly. The dog won how many matches?

Was just happy to hear it went off without a hiccup.

[ragedog10]

Gotta be silly sometimes lol. Two great ones and the best got it congrats to both. But I'm partial lol. Yis Ole Man

[Nut]

Congrats. I assume he retires after this one?

[ragedog10]

Hope so we got some sons who look really good. Yis Ole Man

[skipper]

Way to go! Big congrats, and hats off for both camps making this one happen.

[loot]

Congrats. To the winner. Also much respect to the other camp, you had a good run with him.

[Officially Retired]

Congratulations to the camp for getting it done! Homer who? Out raced Balboa in 1:15. The best 44 of present time. Alot of doubters and he mad it look easy again.http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11369

Wow, nice job.

Did the other lose game / make it?

Jack

[ragedog10]

He scratched. Just outclassed. Yis Ole Man

[Officially Retired]

:hatsoff:

[ChuckyDukes]

Outclassed is right. I doubt Balboa made it. I'll keep my thoughts on Balboa's camp to myself. I'll just say this: Homer, heck of a bulldog, his owners are sorry. Titere is an all time great!

[Eliman]

Congrats

[brokeback]

Job well done!

[ragedog10]

Outclassed is right. I doubt Balboa made it. I'll keep my thoughts on Balboa's camp to myself. I'll just say this: Homer, heck of a bulldog, his owners are sorry. Titere is an all time great!
Chuckydukes get that breeding done you know how nice that blood will match up! But both beans and her sister to him then back to their litter mate brother! I want one of those! Lol

[Officially Retired]

wasnt going balboa way that day but the one thing i will say he kept on getting to his feet tring to make something happen. titrer is a great dog , balboa is also a great dog with great determation . titere just has that something thats hard to explain but when you see him you know what im talking about balboA is doing ok and hopefully continues on to have a great life produceing some pups. titere easly should be remembered as the best at his weight of monder times:appl::appl::

Glad to hear Balboa is doing okay; sounds like a truly great match. Two great dogs meet, one wins, the other loses game, and is picked up in time to be saved.

That's the way it's supposed to be.

Jack

[ragedog10]

From the very beginning those with a eye could see there was something truly special about Titere very great dog one who should be remembered as one of the best ever. Yis Ole Man

[ChuckyDukes]

I hope Balboa makes it. Didn't look good for him afterwards. He impressed me in that one with his will. Titere truly outclassed him , so if I was impressed with Balboa you can imagine what I thought of Titere! I was going "all in" with Titere!

Titere is a TACTICAL ASSASSIN!

Ragedogg, 1 of the sisters will definitely be seeing him, hopefully.

[LEFTLANE]

Congrats

[Officially Retired]

From the very beginning those with a eye could see there was something truly special about Titere very great dog one who should be remembered as one of the best ever. Yis Ole Man

That is great. Looks like he's a cool, fun, well-socialized dog also ... on top of being a title-taker :)

[FrostyPaws]

The only thing Balboa's owners did correctly was pick their dog up. After talking much garbage, they showed up over AND about 25% of the agreed upon amount of pesos. Talk about some "upstanding" individuals in dogs.

[LEFTLANE]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=32664
anyone gonna change part.of that?

[evolutionkennels]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=32664
anyone gonna change part.of that?

Those guys leave a lot to be desired. Ripped us off many years ago.

[FrostyPaws]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=32664
anyone gonna change part.of that?

Changed

[ChuckyDukes]

The only thing Balboa's owners did correctly was pick their dog up. After talking much garbage, they showed up over AND about 25% of the agreed upon amount of pesos. Talk about some "upstanding" individuals in dogs.

On top of being a lb over... I can GUARANTEE that camp would have been all over the boards, social media, boasting on if Balboa would have been victorious. You see none of that from Titere's camp. Too bad for their self proclaimed "Ace". Disgusted with the Balboa camp's behavior. Classless crybabies.

[Nut]

Missed your chances to breed to a real gr ch ~X(

[30orless]

Thanks for leting me use your account bro
Now reason for my visit Balboa camp cries about NOTHING we came in big, Balboa is a natural 42 as an adult. Balboa started at 38 , and went to 42 at 2yrs old "NO" takers at 42 "NONE" so he was taken UP a 1.lb to 43 to continue to play and stayed there a pound above his show weight titere was hooked at 43 3xs paid a ff to Balboa @ 43 the ONLY would play at 44 with Balboa ONLY 44 NO 43 LMAO.....so be it !
Balboa came in at 45 " FAT " ready for war and took this Super Dog 1:15. Many of you can say what you want about mmu but truth of the matter is MMU PUTTING OUT BULLDOGS WIN OR LEARN....... BULLDOG COMING ! ACE GET YOU ONE!
To date
1. CH
2. 2XW
3. 1xw

And that's just the first 4 litters 10 total and the other 3 litters looking very promising.....

[Officially Retired]

Thanks for leting me use your account bro
Now reason for my visit Balboa camp cries about NOTHING we came in big, Balboa is a natural 42 as an adult. Balboa started at 38 , and went to 42 at 2yrs old "NO" takers at 42 "NONE" so he was taken UP a 1.lb to 43 to continue to play and stayed there a pound above his show weight titere was hooked at 43 3xs paid a ff to Balboa @ 43 the ONLY would play at 44 with Balboa ONLY 44 NO 43 LMAO.....so be it !
Balboa came in at 45 " FAT " ready for war and took this Super Dog 1:15. Many of you can say what you want about mmu but truth of the matter is MMU PUTTING OUT BULLDOGS WIN OR LEARN....... BULLDOG COMING ! ACE GET YOU ONE!
To date
1. CH
2. 2XW
3. 1xw

And that's just the first 4 litters 10 total and the other 3 litters looking very promising.....

That just cost you your account. Read the rules (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/rules.php). There is no sharing accounts.

I mean, really? You're a full-grown man and can't afford $30? You still "share accounts" like a little boy?

Not here you don't, I don't care who you are or what dog you own.

Pay for your own account like a grown-up.

Jack

[Black Hand]

Who just hooks their dog 7 pounds over his natural weight? That doesn't say anything about the dog, just says a lot more about the owner.

[Officially Retired]

Agreed ... as well as the competition.

You can only spot a piece of shit 7 lb ... you can't do that with a legitimate bulldog.

[ragedog10]

Thanks for leting me use your account bro
Now reason for my visit Balboa camp cries about NOTHING we came in big, Balboa is a natural 42 as an adult. Balboa started at 38 , and went to 42 at 2yrs old "NO" takers at 42 "NONE" so he was taken UP a 1.lb to 43 to continue to play and stayed there a pound above his show weight titere was hooked at 43 3xs paid a ff to Balboa @ 43 the ONLY would play at 44 with Balboa ONLY 44 NO 43 LMAO.....so be it !
Balboa came in at 45 " FAT " ready for war and took this Super Dog 1:15. Many of you can say what you want about mmu but truth of the matter is MMU PUTTING OUT BULLDOGS WIN OR LEARN....... BULLDOG COMING ! ACE GET YOU ONE!
To date
1. CH
2. 2XW
3. 1xw

And that's just the first 4 litters 10 total and the other 3 litters looking very promising.....


Sounds like more of the same boo whooo's! Balboa is 1000% bulldog his backers is making him look bad! Shit he lost to a bad Mofo wat more could you have asked of him. Also coming in fat has nothing to do with making agreed upon weight!!

And lets be clear CH lotto was also chasing Homie Balboa and was pushed into GrCh Titere's lane with the winner to see Homie Balboa! Balboa is showing to be true bulldog with throwing the same we understand it your fist bulldog talk to me in 15 years and still have fucking KILLERS' nice life scram!!!

[Officially Retired]

Rumor has it Titere won #8 ... over who/what?

[Officially Retired]

2 hours, 9 minutes ... don't know if he made it or who/what he beat yet ...

[ragedog10]

Jack you are correct

[Officially Retired]

How is he doing?

Who/what did he beat?

BIG Congratulations :hatsoff::appl:

[ragedog10]

..Get ped info later

[Officially Retired]

Awesome.

Was the other dog picked up? How did it end?

[Bromboy]

Congratulations to gr ch titere and fmk! Steady mobbin

[ragedog10]

Hate to say i told ya so but it is wat it is!

Jack love ya site so we brought this great animal to light on this site first! As a day one fan i tried to tell the world this is not just a great animal but a once in a life time bulldog ever. A dog mans DREAM!! Hope next time i tell u guys a bulldog is the one that yall take my word! Lol
I only bring fourth the truth like it or not.

Also congrads to the camp for getting such a big win on the biggest day in boxing and now in the bulldog world and keeping it safe!! I thank you for that! Now add another stack to that stud fee having the only winning offspring of him i dont want anyone that wasnt a day on fan with any of it!!! To bad thats not up to me!!!


Ps.
Titere H.I.S.T.O.R.Y will be here on th P.B.B FIRST!! We got next!

Love that dog from day one and not just because of the title but because of the over all dog GRCH Titere is and i dont love MUCH! Lol

[S_B]

FUCKING AWESOME!!!! :hatsoff: :appl:

What a Bulldog, congratulations GR CH TITERE 8XW! Not only a phenomenal Bulldog but obviously a great camp behind him.

Hope the GR CH is doing well and recovers quickly!

S_B

[Nitaino]

Congrats to FMK and all involved. Had the pleasure of having this fine animal on my yard the first two years of his life. Not to shabby with a bulldog that almost died from heart worms. Was a DOA victory they refused to pick up a downed hog.

[Doc Ellis]

congrats to the old dog and camp!
hope he is doing ok.

[Nitaino]

He is recovering after his long ride.

[mrtsi]

wow that's amazing, congrats.

[Nut]

:appl:

[Officially Retired]

Here is what I heard:


He should be okay but haven't talked to them today. He beat Freeborn Born Kennels Smokey 2xw-1xl RIP. The deal shouldn't of taken place but the bad mouthing that was put out by this kennels made it happen. The show was actually over at the 1:30 mark because Smokey was downed and dying but they refused to pick up and Titere refused to stop punishing a dead bulldog. Guess they were hoping he wouldn't scratch to a dead bulldog. What they didn't that he had killed one of his earlier opponents and had been threw the situation and scratched to a dead bulldog after they wouldn't pick up either. Will let you know his condition during the day.

This doesn't take away anything from Titere's win, but it DOES take away from the camp of the opponent as a no-class collection of ****.

It is a shame that a DG dog was just left to die. There is no shame in losing GAME ... especially to a dog like Titere (and there really is no dog like Titere).

It should have ended better ... but that doesn't change the accomplishment of Titere, just the taste in the mouth afterward.

Jack

[ragedog10]

Really a shame but most don't know he will scratch into anything down or up! And he is throwing that trait :-) :-)

[Nut]

There's no such thing as not scratching back in to a dead dog right. The match is over if the dog is dead. Agreed with Jack, its a shame. Also a shame to drag a gr ch into deeper waters if you know you already lost. I will accept or ask for a scratch to continue in such case and let the people treat their dog. Did it before. Don't have to be friends with your opponent, but respect the dogs.

[Officially Retired]

There's no such thing as not scratching back in to a dead dog right. The match is over if the dog is dead. Agreed with Jack, its a shame. Also a shame to drag a gr ch into deeper waters if you know you already lost. I will accept or ask for a scratch to continue in such case and let the people treat their dog.

Exactly. A dog is not required to do that, to anyone who understands the rules.

And that is also exactly what that POS camp tried to do, was take Titere another hour, to "maybe" jeopardize his life too.

It's lowclass bullshit, nothing more, and no good ref would have let that happen.

Refs *do* have the ability to DECLARE A WINNER for precisely this reason.

Jack

[Officially Retired]

The camp and the ref were pieces of shit.

[ChuckyDukes]

He picked up, after much protest from the crowd and his team. Ref was urging a pick up as well. By 1:20, only a miracle, quit on top by Titere (which wasn't gonna happen) was his only hope.

[ChuckyDukes]

To clarify, a scratch to continue was granted, NOT a pick up. He couldn't stand let alone attempt a scratch.

[Nitaino]

This was once considered a Gentlemen's sport and this is one of the problem of todays game. It takes a real man to admit defeat and save his animal which has given his all for you. But when you pop off at the mouth like many do this is the outcome and their true colors come threw.

[STA8541]

I'm sorry it ended the way it did (shouldn't ever happen that way), but a hearty congratulations to Gr. Ch. Titere & all his camp. Helluva bulldog.

[SHOWBOX]

Not only a PHENOMINAL powerhouse but a GAME PHENOMINAL POWERHOUSE. A true Bulldog Hall of Famer!

God bless to all those behind Titere as well as the dog himself. There are some GREAT stories behind this animal and GENTLEMAN as well.

SHOWBOX
showboxkennels@yahoo.com

[scratchin dog]

Congrats to Gr Ch Titere 8XW. One hell of a bulldog.

RIP to Freedomborn Kennels' Dream Snatcher. A total waste of a beautiful, well bred, dead game athlete. If you see your dog cant win then at least have the decency to pick him up.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=47964

[STA8541]

If you see your dog cant win then at least have the decency to pick him up.

Amen brother.

[Nitaino]

Congrats to Gr Ch Titere 8XW. One hell of a bulldog.

RIP to Freedomborn Kennels' Dream Snatcher. A total waste of a beautiful, well bred, dead game athlete. If you see your dog cant win then at least have the decency to pick him up.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=47964
Hate to tell you that's the wrong dog. Maybe bred alike but Smokey was a black nosed bulldog.

[scratchin dog]

Hate to tell you that's the wrong dog. Maybe bred alike but Smokey was a black nosed bulldog.

Are you sure? I was told it was this particular dog. Ok, im going to change it until I find out for sure. If anyone knows the ped of the bulldog that lost to Titere, please let me know so I can post it here. Thanks

[ChuckyDukes]

Same dog, call name Smokey.

[scratchin dog]

Same dog, call name Smokey.

Thats what I thought. Thanks

[Nitaino]

Not same dog. In the picture the dog is red nosed and the dog called Smokey was dark fawn with a black nose. I know this for a fact because I stood across from him taking a loss like a man.

[Doc Ellis]

Hard to dispute that

[scratchin dog]

Not same dog. In the picture the dog is red nosed and the dog called Smokey was dark fawn with a black nose. I know this for a fact because I stood across from him taking a loss like a man.

Ok, so maybe the discrepancy is in the picture of the dog on the ped. I took it from the other peds site, so it could be the wrong pic and description. But i believe it is the correct ped on the dog.

[Nitaino]

He beat Titere's litter mate Panthro jr for his second. He was brought out of retirement to put together a three part deal. They beat the old man and bailed out of the rest of the deal. They were supposed to give me a shot at a 1xw they owned with then 2xw and now Ch Reno. So the third match which was supposed to be females I refused to do. Hopefully this clears everything up and no more doubts.

[scratchin dog]

He beat Titere's litter mate Panthro jr for his second. He was brought out of retirement to put together a three part deal. They beat the old man and bailed out of the rest of the deal. They were supposed to give me a shot at a 1xw they owned with then 2xw and now Ch Reno. So the third match which was supposed to be females I refused to do. Hopefully this clears everything up and no more doubts.

Thank you for the clarification. Hopefully someone can clear up the issue of the correct ped/pic.

[ChuckyDukes]

Smokey was a red, red nose vs Titere. There is NO dispute on that. Unless my eyes were playing tricks on me?

[ChuckyDukes]

Dream Snatcher aka Smokey beat Panthro Jr, lost to Titere. Red/red nose, verified by someone from their camp.

[Nitaino]

Then it wasn't Smokey. He was also a man biter.

[Nitaino]

I was in there with him for an hour and I might be old and slow but not blind.

[Officially Retired]

There have been a couple instances where even I have thought a nose was "one" color but, upon closer inspection, it in face was another color.

I seriously doubt the owner of the dog doesn't know what color his own dog's nose was.

So let me get this straight: this dog Smokey is the dog that beat Titere's daddy?

Jack

[ChuckyDukes]

Smokey beat his littermate, Panthro Jr 2xw 2xl

[Officially Retired]

Smokey beat his littermate, Panthro Jr 2xw 2xl

Family score settled then, thanks.

[HAMMER49]

Dream Snatcher aka Smokey. The manbiter.

[Pit Bull Committed]

FreedomBornKennel aka Joel is a POS!!! Claims himself to be to be a top class dogman but does shit like that in the box!!! I knew he was a big POS when I first spoke with him.

Big congrats to Gr Ch Titere and his camp for shutting up that big mouth POS!

[Macker]

Exactly. A dog is not required to do that, to anyone who understands the rules.

And that is also exactly what that POS camp tried to do, was take Titere another hour, to "maybe" jeopardize his life too.

It's lowclass bullshit, nothing more, and no good ref would have let that happen.

Refs *do* have the ability to DECLARE A WINNER for precisely this reason.

Jack


Jack can you clarify this for me because I was always of the understanding that if it's your dogs turn to scratch, he has to even if the other dog is dead?? From what I gather is being said here, the referee can actually declare the winner? Maybe I've taken it up wrong, is this if no turns have been called? And is this under Cajun rules?
This is really interesting to me.

[Nut]

dont know about the referee decision part. but no dog is required to scratch into a dead dog.

[ragedog10]

Jack can you clarify this for me because I was always of the understanding that if it's your dogs turn to scratch, he has to even if the other dog is dead?? From what I gather is being said here, the referee can actually declare the winner? Maybe I've taken it up wrong, is this if no turns have been called? And is this under Cajun rules?
This is really interesting to me.

Reread the rules NO DOG has to scratch into a dead dog and this is why rule are talked over before hand. Ch Omar camp was taken like that lost their money but got the W!
Dont know if the man is a POS or not but the choice was his to pick up or not and he chose not to got respect it if we agree with it or not!
It takes real balls and a hell of a BULLDOG to travle and go into a 7XW they laid it all on the line.

[Officially Retired]

Jack can you clarify this for me because I was always of the understanding that if it's your dogs turn to scratch, he has to even if the other dog is dead??

Hi. The rules directly state no dog has to scratch into a dead dog.

The whole point of the Cajun rules (scratching), as opposed to just leaving them down until 1 is dead, is to AVOID death.




From what I gather is being said here, the referee can actually declare the winner? Maybe I've taken it up wrong, is this if no turns have been called? And is this under Cajun rules?
This is really interesting to me.

The referee can't "declare a winner" if two dogs are still fighting, but if one dog is gone and just being dragged around the pit dead, he can declare a winner like that.

In any case, anyone leaving his dog down to die isn't exactly the height of "class" and "sportsmanship."

Jack

[Officially Retired]

It takes real balls and a hell of a BULLDOG to travle and go into a 7XW they laid it all on the line.

It takes real balls to do the fighting yourself, not with the dog.

It does take a certain competitive spirit to travel and put the dog on the line, but it takes class and sportsmanship to recognize when the dog can't possibly win anymore and to show some respect for its life.

Having zero respect for life is not exactly a positive trait in a person.

Jack

[Nut]

It takes real balls to do the fighting yourself, not with the dog.

It does take a certain competitive spirit to travel and put the dog on the line, but it takes class and sportsmanship to recognize when the dog can't possibly win anymore and to show some respect for its life.

That's a really good post. I never understand people using the word balls in this sport. Only when it comes to reffing it applies.

[ragedog10]

It takes real balls to do the fighting yourself, not with the dog.

It does take a certain competitive spirit to travel and put the dog on the line, but it takes class and sportsmanship to recognize when the dog can't possibly win anymore and to show some respect for its life.

Having zero respect for life is not exactly a positive trait in a person.

Jack
Jack im with you 1000% on that great dog lost to the best in the world right now if they would have picked him up i would have bought him and bred him right into the rest of our stock bro! To many people are breeding for 30min ruff curs and dont understand when its such a high rate of ruff curs with in bloodlines and its because of this very reason right here GAME BULLDOGS are not giving that respect of being a living thing and saying 'You know wat buddy im a pick u up and get some sons off your stupid game ass and still be kicking ass 20 years from now'!
Not every one thinks like that and the breed suffers.It was a post on here not long ago were the topic was knowing when to pick up and save a great hound to breed around!

Also it take hell of balls to get in there after the dogs are done and handle any difference two men my have and even more of a man to get up and shake the others hand and have a beer! Lol

Also Jack when we first brought GrCh El Titere to light I felt like you had your doubts about him. Correct me if im wrong but are you now a believer? Im sure you have to be leaning towards a 100% fan of him as he is the P.B.B first dog of the year?

[Officially Retired]

Jack im with you 1000% on that great dog lost to the best in the world right now if they would have picked him up i would have bought him and bred him right into the rest of our stock bro! To many people are breeding for 30min ruff curs and dont understand when its such a high rate of ruff curs with in bloodlines and its because of this very reason right here GAME BULLDOGS are not giving that respect of being a living thing and saying 'You know wat buddy im a pick u up and get some sons off your stupid game ass and still be kicking ass 20 years from now'!

Agreed. Game losers have, in many cases, been some of the best-producing, most influential stud dogs in the history of the game.




Not every one thinks like that and the breed suffers.It was a post on here not long ago were the topic was knowing when to pick up and save a great hound to breed around!


That's why they never amount to anything as breeders. The skills to win are vital, no doubt.

But when a dog is skilled enough to compete with the best for over an hour ... and then is also game enough never to quit to a killing ... that dog is, literally, worth its weight in gold as a potential stud dog qualified as possessing the most vital trait of all: gameness.




Also it take hell of balls to get in there after the dogs are done and handle any difference two men my have and even more of a man to get up and shake the others hand and have a beer! Lol

It's always better to shake hands, have a beer, and make a new friend ... than an enemy, true.




Also Jack when we first brought GrCh El Titere to light I felt like you had your doubts about him.

Nope. On the first thread about Titere here, Lakota Kennels (Frosty Paws) kinda sneered at Titere, because he beat a prior loser, and I was ambivalent (undecided) about him, because I didn't know enough about him. However, I actually stuck up for him ... based on the fact that, just because he beat a dog that had previously lost, doesn't mean that the winning dog was bad (or even the loser was bad). The greats have all lost (Ali, Louis, Robinson) ... doesn't mean they're bad fighters at all.

I certainly didn't think he was "the best ever" back then, but he also hadn't done all of his deals at that point either.




Correct me if im wrong but are you now a believer?

Did my arguing two 14-page battles on PedsOnline, saying he was robbed of the DOY title, and participating in another debate on here ... ultimately creating a whole new DOY title myself ... just to give the dog his due ... give you the idea that I 'might be' a believer? :lol:




Im sure you have to be leaning towards a 100% fan of him as he is the P.B.B first dog of the year?

Huge fan of the dog, no doubt.

Jack

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[Officially Retired]

Here (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/showthread.php?905) is the original post on Titere on this forum.

As you can see, I stuck up for the dog.

[ragedog10]

Here (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/showthread.php?905) is the original post on Titere on this forum.

As you can see, I stuck up for the dog.

That you did!!!!
And I thank u for allowing me to bring him to light here first and with the help of this board getting him the respect GrCh El Titere deserves. Not one SDJ or Scratch back mag has a better read on this great dog! Not the best write up but enough to get the viewers to understand what was happening with his history in the making!

[S_B]

Well let me say I've been a fan from day one of hearing about the dog. Anyone who isn't is a fan is either a sore loser or isn't a dogman.
GR CH TITERE 8XW has accomplished what very few dogs and dogmen have.

Now let me know where that mother fucker is so I can send him a congratulatory T Bone steak! ;)

S_B

[ragedog10]

Next stop ROM..

[S_B]

Next stop ROM..

Let me help make that happen, I have a superb bitch coming in soon!!! :lol:

[Macker]

Hi. The rules directly state no dog has to scratch into a dead dog.

The whole point of the Cajun rules (scratching), as opposed to just leaving them down until 1 is dead, is to AVOID death.





The referee can't "declare a winner" if two dogs are still fighting, but if one dog is gone and just being dragged around the pit dead, he can declare a winner like that.

In any case, anyone leaving his dog down to die isn't exactly the height of "class" and "sportsmanship."

Jack

Thanks for the reply. I've read a couple versions of the Cajun rules and can't seem to find where it says a dog doesn't have to scratch to a dead dog or where it says the referee can declare a winner. Can somebody post the version of the rules that states that?

I agree with sportsmanship and leaving a dead dog down is not sportsmanship. I believe when your kills another dog in the square it's done exactly what it's come to do, anybody that would try cheat that dog out of the win through cheap tricks is a low life. You need to know when your beat and do right by your animal.

[ragedog10]

Rule 8(c) No dog is required to scratch to a dead dog, the live dog is the winner..Trying to figure out how to post it.

[Macker]

Rage dog can you share the set of rules you've taken this from?

Here's what I ca find.

Rule 8: Either dog's owner, handler, or watcher if he sees anything wrong must at once appeal to the referee and get his decision. And if any handler, watcher or owner violates any of these rules and thereby favors either dog the dog so favored must at once be declared the loser.

8. The dog/s once brought inside the pit has to be faced against their opponent (not facing his corner). The referee will then ask both handlers if they are "READY?" and will give the command to RELEASE your dog by shouting "pit"

I've literally read 5 different interpretations of the Cajun Rules and can't find that rule? I've always been of the understanding that if it's your dogs turn to scratch, he has to scratch (even to a dead dog) unless the other side concedes the match.

[Palooka]

likewise macker, i can't find the rules which state you dont have to scratch to a dead dog, i'm intrigued but none the wiser.

[ragedog10]

http://sportingdog.ru/pitbulls/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1866&p=5101&hilit=cajun+rules#p5101

[Officially Retired]

Thanks for the reply. I've read a couple versions of the Cajun rules and can't seem to find where it says a dog doesn't have to scratch to a dead dog or where it says the referee can declare a winner. Can somebody post the version of the rules that states that?

I agree with sportsmanship and leaving a dead dog down is not sportsmanship. I believe when your kills another dog in the square it's done exactly what it's come to do, anybody that would try cheat that dog out of the win through cheap tricks is a low life. You need to know when your beat and do right by your animal.

You're going to have to look in one of the older, physical books.

Back in the 90s there were several sites with the original rules.

I just looked around now, too, and all the 'modern' online versions seem to have this omitted, which is bullshit.

Check one of the Stratton books, or any of the older books, that contain a conscientious rendering of the rules, not one of these modern bubble-gum sites.

Jack

[Black Hand]

It does not make sense to scratch into a dead dog. You're gonna stay all night and let a live one work a dead one until he finally comes out of hold and then scratch him? I would never scratch my dog to win if he never came out of hold.

[Officially Retired]

Good point.

The whole idea of any fight is to determine a winner, not to sit there and watch a GD killing.

That would be like watching one boxer KO another boxer, and instead of the contest being "over" at that point, with a winner decided ... to sit there and watch the conscious opponent kick, stomp, mutilate and absolutely beat his helpless opponent to death ... and then to keep watching the guy drag the body around. That is no longer a "sport," by any definition, and anyone who would want to watch something like that is a deranged asshole who needs to be put away.

In the exact same fashion, it does not make sense from a "basic decency" standpoint to sit there and watch one dog totally destroy, mutilate, kill, and then drag the body of a dead dog around. Anyone who can't understand this is a defective person, and cannot properly be called a "human being" ... they're missing some key traits that make for a human being.

In our sport, morally-sound people are trying to determine (1) a winner, and (2) if the dog who is beaten "still wants to continue" and has an acceptable amount of gameness if he cannot possibly win. We are NOT supposed to be killing, mutilating, and taking the lives of the losing animal, especially if it's game, to say nothing about spending another hour watching one dog drag a body around.

Pretty hard to believe that this requires explanation ...

Jack

[ragedog10]

Did the link I posted work? The rules I posted were revised Cajun Rules as was stated the object is not to kill but prove who is gamer ect.... on some occasions things happen quick and nothing can be done, but to sit and watch your dog get killed then drug around hoping the oppent loses intrest is just down right sick. But some pf the most active don't know the rules and let it happen, a well known Ch killed the other and didn't take hold on his scratch. Money and the fact most have no respect for the dogs are slowly ruining the dog's. I may not be the most well known person but I've been around and respect the dog's , picking one up doesn't make you soft it makes you a real man with compassion for his partner

[Officially Retired]

Did the link I posted work? The rules I posted were revised Cajun Rules as was stated the object is not to kill but prove who is gamer ect.... on some occasions things happen quick and nothing can be done, but to sit and watch your dog get killed then drug around hoping the oppent loses intrest is just down right sick. But some pf the most active don't know the rules and let it happen, a well known Ch killed the other and didn't take hold on his scratch. Money and the fact most have no respect for the dogs are slowly ruining the dog's. I may not be the most well known person but I've been around and respect the dog's , picking one up doesn't make you soft it makes you a real man with compassion for his partner

:appl:

[Officially Retired]

PS: You have to be logged in/registered to view the link apparently.

[Frankie]

Did the link I posted work? The rules I posted were revised Cajun Rules as was stated the object is not to kill but prove who is gamer ect.... on some occasions things happen quick and nothing can be done, but to sit and watch your dog get killed then drug around hoping the oppent loses intrest is just down right sick. But some pf the most active don't know the rules and let it happen, a well known Ch killed the other and didn't take hold on his scratch. Money and the fact most have no respect for the dogs are slowly ruining the dog's. I may not be the most well known person but I've been around and respect the dog's , picking one up doesn't make you soft it makes you a real man with compassion for his partner



Well said agree 100%

[S_B]

X3 great reply Ragedog10!

[mitchm]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=914&d=1431312100
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=915&d=1431312116
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=916&d=1431312184
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=917&d=1431312203
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=919&d=1431312386
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=920&d=1431312405
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=921&d=1431312420

[Officially Retired]

Thanks. There it is, Page 5, Rule 8 (c).

[kandyman]

What style is gr ch titere? Congratulations! It takes a real dog man with a real bulldog to build a resume as fine as gr ch Titeres!

[ragedog10]

Pick you apart very smart with no real weaknesses.

[Palooka]

well said Rage, couldn't agree more .

link just takes you to forum register.